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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:18:26 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: Honda 50

A good question ?
Well - mine is!
Haven't seen (but I heard) any other Camino's... :-)

>Is it a Pa50?
> >
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:58:31 EDT
From: Headly187@aol.com
Subject: Re: honda 50

well actually my honda is a c100 super cub, but it says honda 50 on it. its
alittle decieving, sorry for the misinterpretation. would you know of any
info on this bike, where i could find any exploded diagrams.
thanks
Ryan

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:02:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)
Subject: Re: honda 50

I am looking for resonably priced parts and manuals,wiring diagrams,for
a Honda Elite 50 CC Winter restoration project. Thankyou TOM
K


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:02:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kauffman Subject: need key for 64 c100 Honda 50

(Please respond direct as this guy is not subscribed to the list)



- -----Original Message-----
From: csrdoc Date: Saturday, October 16, 1999 7:53 PM
Subject: Honda c100 key


Enjoyed reading letters from moped owners, and wondered if anyone can
help; I need a key or new ignition if I can't find key, for a 1964 c100 Honda
50. I know key lock code...but... no repair shop or dealership can help.
any ideas?


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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:21:29 EDT
From: Delorean17@aol.com
Subject: motobecane

Hello,
what is the number for the spark plug on a motobecane? please email me
asap. also, my motobecane has spark and is getting gas but wont fire. there
doesnt seem to be much suction where the carb sucks in air. is that bad? it
seems as if it is not pulling any air into the carb. all gaskets are good!

thanks

David

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:16:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)


NEEDS A KEY I took my ignition switch,with NO key to a locksmith.
He looked in a book ,found a key blank number,and other numbers, got
the blank key,and I watched him cut me TWO new perfect working keys for
only $7.00




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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:18:26 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: honda 50

A good question ?
Well - mine is!
Haven't seen (but I heard) any other Camino's... :-)

>Is it a Pa50?
> >
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:58:31 EDT
From: Headly187@aol.com
Subject: Re: honda 50

well actually my honda is a c100 super cub, but it says honda 50 on it. its
alittle decieving, sorry for the misinterpretation. would you know of any
info on this bike, where i could find any exploded diagrams.
thanks
Ryan

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:02:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)
Subject: Re: honda 50

I am looking for resonably priced parts and manuals,wiring diagrams,for
a HONDA ELITE 50 CC Winter restoration project. Thankyou TOM
K


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:02:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kauffman Subject: need key for 64 c100 Honda 50

(Please respond direct as this guy is not subscribed to the list)



- - -----Original Message-----
From: csrdoc Date: Saturday, October 16, 1999 7:53 PM
Subject: Honda c100 key


Enjoyed reading letters from moped owners, and wondered if anyone can
help; I need a key or new ignition if I can't find key, for a 1964 c100 Honda
50. I know key lock code...but... no repair shop or dealership can help.
any ideas?


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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:37:04 -0400
From: djeady@advsolgrp.com
Subject: Re: motobecane

Plug is probably a BR5HS or BR6HS - NGK. I've tried the Champion equivalent
(L90C) and they didn't work well.

If it won't fire at all and you have a compression release valve, check to make
sure it isn't stuck open.

Dave

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From: JoJo McDougal Subject: Breaking In

Can you break in Tomos with a biturbo exhaust


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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:34:39 EDT
From: Cjjwa2@aol.com
Subject: motor roller museum

Well, they ain't moPEDS to be strict about it, but they do look like fun.

The Motor Roller Museum is something I found in R=FCedesheim am Rhein, Germa=
ny.=20
They claim to have over 500 Rollers (we would call them scooters, not=20
mopeds, as you can't pedal tham) from the 40s on up. =20

I haven't had time to go in there. but on my next visit, I'll be sure to dro=
p=20
in and give a full report here.

CHEERS
James Wilkins
cjjwa2@aol.com

THE HERCULES IS RUNNING !!! (1961)

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:32:22 EDT
From: Headly187@aol.com
Subject: Re: need key for 64 c100 Honda 50

i also need a key for a c100 honda 50, what can i do, could a locksmith or
something help?

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:20:56 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: honda 50

Sorry - haven't heard of it.
Do you have a picture ?

Bob

>well actually my honda is a c100 super cub, but it says honda 50 on it. its
>alittle decieving, sorry for the misinterpretation. would you know of any
>info on this bike, where i could find any exploded diagrams.
>thanks
>Ryan
> - -----

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:57:16 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: honda 50

I have recently scanned a new book - which has the diagram for the
Honda Camino PA50, ...(as you might now already)

Go to:
http://home.c2i.net/sht/moped
[Other links]
[Instruction manual]

Click forward - 15'then-times and you'll get to the picture..
(click on it an save file - 505kb)
(I have kept the size to make it more readable - as the non-compression pic
took 3Mb)

Bob


>I am looking for resonably priced parts and manuals,wiring diagrams,for
>a HONDA ELITE 50 CC Winter restoration project. Thankyou TOM
>K
> > > - -----

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:12:59 EDT
From: Headly187@aol.com
Subject: Re: honda 50

[Unable to display image]

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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:22:46 EDT
From: ChrisM2002@aol.com
Subject: Re: need key for 64 c100 Honda 50

hotwire it

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:21:41 -0700
From: Kohinoor Subject: Puch Riders in SoCa

This is most likely a long shot, a shot in the dark, but hey, why not? Hi, I
live in Simi Valley, CA and am wondering who the other Puch rider that I see
sometimes in the church parking lot across the street from me is, and if he is
on this mailing list. I think that he might live in my hood as I more offen
hear his bike then see it. I have given chase when I've seen him but always
too late to catch him. So if you are him and see this and want to get in
contact with me for moped talks or rides or whatever feel free to do so.

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:52:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)
Subject: Re: Puch Riders in SoCa


Suggestion,<><><><> Why not go directly and leave a note on his moped
to arrange a talk,a phone call or a way to meet
Regards.




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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:21:41 -0700
From: Kohinoor Subject: Puch Riders in SoCa
To: moped@iList.net
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services
Sender: owner-moped@iList.net
Reply-To: moped@iList.net

This is most likely a long shot, a shot in the dark, but hey, why not? Hi, I
live in Simi Valley, CA and am wondering who the other Puch rider that I see
sometimes in the church parking lot across the street from me is, and if he is
on this mailing list. I think that he might live in my hood as I more offen
hear his bike then see it. I have given chase when I've seen him but always
too late to catch him. So if you are him and see this and want to get in
contact with me for moped talks or rides or whatever feel free to do so.


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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 03:26:09 +0200
From: "Peter Staal" Subject: Re: Breaking In

I wouldn't recommend it, it makes no sense either.
a fast pipe on a braking in moped is asking for trouble.
Peter.

- ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: JoJo McDougal Aan: Verzonden: dinsdag 19 oktober 1999 21:36
Onderwerp: Breaking In


> Can you break in Tomos with a biturbo exhaust
> > > =====
> >
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:16:41 -0700
From: Kohinoor Subject: Re: Puch Riders in SoCa

Dear Tom, that is just what I would do if I ever saw just the bike parked
somewhere, but I haven't. I have only seen the Puch, and it's rider, dashing
through the parking lot and out onto another street and away. I've jumped on
either my Puch or my faster Tomos and given chase but he always disappears.
I've also ridden the streets around my home (showing the flag, as it were) in
hopes of flushing him, but no luck. I said that it was a long shot, maybe it's
a ghost rider :)

And before it is suggested that I chase in a car I don't (by choice) have one.
Only the two peds, and a TourEasy recumbent bicycle, and a mountain bike. Oh,
and a home built box trailer based on a old (70's) Cannondale 2 child
rear-facing bicycle trailer. The fiberglass seat had long rotted away and the
frame was just sitting in a corner of the shed when I thought Hey! I could put
that to use again, and did. I pull it behind any of my two wheeled bikes (gas
or human powered) when I go shopping. Which leads into my next question.

Does anyone know the legality of pulling a *BICYCLE* trailer behind a *MOPED*
(motorized bicycle by the laws terms). Here in CA you pay a small one-time fee
to register a ped and you get a license plate to attach to the ped that is
good forever. Now I know that with motorcycles and the trailers that they pull
you have to pay a yearly fee, and the trailer has to have lights and it's own
plate. Bicycle trailers have no such requirements. This one doesn't have a
plate or lights (I will be adding turn signals, brake and running lights once
I figure out how). There doesn't seem to be a legal description of a moped
trailer, just motorcycle or bicycle ones. The police around here (who are
quite familar with me) don't seem to know, and don't want to deal with it :) I
don't think that DMV really knows either. So far I haven't had any problems,
I'm just wondering if I'm breaking any laws :)

Maybe I'm plowing new ground here? Or has anyone else any experinces with this
setup in their state or country?

Thanks and regards,
Kris Alfjordsson

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY) wrote:
> Suggestion,<><><><> Why not go directly and leave a note on his moped
> to arrange a talk,a phone call or a way to meet
> Regards.

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:19:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)
Subject: Re: Puch Riders in SoCa

Thanks for mystery rider reply.
I NEED $$$$ TO GET A HONDA ELITE 50 CYLINDER,PISTON ,RINGS AND PIN
ASSY, I HAVE A BRAND NEW( N.O.S.) PUCH LIKE ITEMS TO TRADE OR SELL.ALSO
A PISTON W RINGS AND PIN.HONDA WANTS $20.00 JUST FOR 2 RINGS HAVE PUCH PART # ,BUT SPECS ARE SAME AS SHOWN IN SERVICE MANUAL I
HAVE.ALSO HAVE ABOUT 10 RINGS.


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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:24:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kauffman Subject: do I need a title for a moped?

(Please respond direct as Scott is not subscribed to the list)

- ----Original Message-----
From: Scott Sportsman Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:21 PM
Subject: Moped


Hi, I am considering buying a 79 Honda moped with no title. My question
is...do I need a title. Thanks in advance for any help. Scott

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:26:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kauffman Subject: 1954 NSU motorized bicycle

(please respond direct to Bill as he is not subscribed to the list)


- -----Original Message-----
From: Bdwmb@aol.com Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 6:12 PM
Subject: question about a motorized bicycle


Hi, I saw your web page, I have recently purchased a
1954 N S U motorized bicycle,
have you ever heard of this model,
or any information will help.
thanks
Bill Di Carlo


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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:01:45 -0700
From: "morris schneider" Subject: Re: Puch Riders in SoCa

Kris wrote:


Does anyone know the legality of pulling a *BICYCLE* trailer behind a
*MOPED*
(motorized bicycle by the laws terms). Here in CA you pay a small one-time
fee
to register a ped and you get a license plate to attach to the ped that is
good forever. Now I know that with motorcycles and the trailers that they
pull
you have to pay a yearly fee, and the trailer has to have lights and it's
own
plate. Bicycle trailers have no such requirements. This one doesn't have a
plate or lights (I will be adding turn signals, brake and running lights
once
I figure out how). There doesn't seem to be a legal description of a moped
trailer, just motorcycle or bicycle ones. The police around here (who are
quite familar with me) don't seem to know, and don't want to deal with it :)
I
don't think that DMV really knows either. So far I haven't had any problems,
I'm just wondering if I'm breaking any laws :)

Maybe I'm plowing new ground here? Or has anyone else any experinces with
this
setup in their state or country?


I'm currently discussing the status of "motorized bicycles" with DMV in
Sacramento. I wrote them a letter trying to clarify the insurance and
license requirements and it's been real interesting. To cut to the chase,
I'm waiting for a call back on Monday to see if I can get reliable
information. I'll post more when I'm comfortable that I have accurate
information. Meanwhile, if you are interested, email me privately and I'll
send you the contact information I have. The folks at DMV are pleasant and
helpful, but simply are unclear on what the law says and means. You'll
really confuse them with questions about moped trailers.

Morris

morrisk@cogent.net

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:21:15 -0700
From: cris lepage Subject: texas and motorized bicycles

Ive talked to DPS and Texas publishes a list of certified mopeds
(requiring registration) and also a list of what it considers to be
motorized bicycles. Anyone have any info on this subject? Cris

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:09:24 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: motobecane

I have noticed that my engine isn't running "well" witha BR5HS..
(and it's about 6 degrees outside now..)

Ain't that plug suppose to meet the cold climate better - than the BR6HS ?

Bob

>Plug is probably a BR5HS or BR6HS - NGK. I've tried the Champion equivalent
>(L90C) and they didn't work well.
> >If it won't fire at all and you have a compression release valve, check to
make
>sure it isn't stuck open.
> >Dave
> > >
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:28:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)


I would suggest,get with DPS and get the list mentioned,and share it
with those that may benifit and yourself,////I If I am reading your
post correctly.




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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:21:15 -0700
From: cris lepage Subject: texas and motorized bicycles

Ive talked to DPS and Texas publishes a list of certified mopeds
(requiring registration) and also a list of what it considers to be
motorized bicycles. Anyone have any info on this subject? Cris

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:42:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)
Subject: Re: motobecane


BOB 6 degrees, like (SIX);as one less than 7???? My 2 mopeds are put
away till next year and it is 40 degrees.May be carburator icing and you
need a Artic COLD weather kit..Why would anyone be out with a moped at
that temp?I am surprised it would run at all.Any one have COLD weather
test specs as to when it is,if ever,too cold to run right.OIL tends to
thicken in the fuel could be a cause




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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:09:24 +0200
To: moped@iList.net
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: motobecane
Sender: owner-moped@iList.net
Reply-To: moped@iList.net

I have noticed that my engine isn't running "well" witha BR5HS..
(and it's about 6 degrees outside now..)

Ain't that plug suppose to meet the cold climate better - than the BR6HS ?

Bob

>Plug is probably a BR5HS or BR6HS - NGK. I've tried the Champion equivalent
>(L90C) and they didn't work well.
> >If it won't fire at all and you have a compression release valve, check to
make
>sure it isn't stuck open.
> >Dave
> > >
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:23:29 -0400
From: "Paul" Subject: Re: motobecane

Here's some input from the Great White North. Although not exactly beyond
the Arctic Circle, we have fairly cold weather in Toronto, from about
mid-October to late April. Of the relatively few moped owners left (we all
seem to know one another) quite a few use their 'ped all year around, except
when the pavement is icy. There isn't much to it - engines will always
start, provided; a/ there is no water in the gasoline
b/ you use the right type of oil to mix the gas with, and
c/ you apply the right mixture ratio.
d/ only use regular gas and stay away from "winter gas"; that's garbage for
mopeds.
e/ use the right heatrange spark plug; we have found the NGK BR6HS to be the
best in under all weather conditions
I can wholeheartedly recommend the RedLine 100% synthetic "Smokeless"
2-stroke oil that we have found of absolutely superior to all others. Any
bike will run with it on 50:1 (2%) regardless what the original manual says.
It also has a special additive that compensates for the absence of lead in
the gasoline (which is an octane stabiliser and as such very good for
precise preignition timing).
Store the moped inside (the room doesn't have to be heated) that's all.
And dress warm (long johns, lots of leather, etc.).

- -----Original Message-----
From: THOMAS KELLEY To: moped@iList.net Date: October 24, 1999 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: motobecane


BOB 6 degrees, like (SIX);as one less than 7???? My 2 mopeds are put
away till next year and it is 40 degrees.May be carburator icing and you
need a Artic COLD weather kit..Why would anyone be out with a moped at
that temp?I am surprised it would run at all.Any one have COLD weather
test specs as to when it is,if ever,too cold to run right.OIL tends to
thicken in the fuel could be a cause


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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:57:11 +0100
From: "Ben Seex" Subject: Re: 1954 NSU motorized bicycle

Probably a NSU Quickly, Curved frame with a tank mounted just below the
steering head.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kauffman To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 4:26 AM
Subject: 1954 NSU motorized bicycle


> (please respond direct to Bill as he is not subscribed to the list)
> > > -----Original Message-----
> From: Bdwmb@aol.com > Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 6:12 PM
> Subject: question about a motorized bicycle
> > > Hi, I saw your web page, I have recently purchased a
> 1954 N S U motorized bicycle,
> have you ever heard of this model,
> or any information will help.
> thanks
> Bill Di Carlo
> > > >
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:32:04 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Re: motobecane

I have put away my 2 other moped for the winter right..
But I'm curious if this works - riding the moped until the first snowflake
turns up.

And ofcouse I use syntetic oil... the best there is!
And besides, taking the bus takes to much time.

Bob..

>BOB 6 degrees, like (SIX);as one less than 7???? My 2 mopeds are put
>away till next year and it is 40 degrees.May be carburator icing and you
>need a Artic COLD weather kit..Why would anyone be out with a moped at
>that temp?I am surprised it would run at all.Any one have COLD weather
>test specs as to when it is,if ever,too cold to run right.OIL tends to
>thicken in the fuel could be a cause
> > > -0600
>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:09:24 +0200
>To: moped@iList.net
>From: DeepDown >Subject: Re: motobecane
>Sender: owner-moped@iList.net
>Reply-To: moped@iList.net
> >I have noticed that my engine isn't running "well" witha BR5HS..
>(and it's about 6 degrees outside now..)
> >Ain't that plug suppose to meet the cold climate better - than the BR6HS ?
> >Bob
> >>Plug is probably a BR5HS or BR6HS - NGK. I've tried the Champion equivalent
>>(L90C) and they didn't work well.
>> >>If it won't fire at all and you have a compression release valve, check to
>make
>>sure it isn't stuck open.
>> >>Dave
>> >> >> > >-----

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:48:37 +0200
From: DeepDown Subject: Where can I get more WEB-space ?

Anyone know where I can expand my sight...
..up to now I have 10MB... and need more.

Bob
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:45:42 EDT
From: Rkell2100@aol.com
Subject: MOPED QUESTION

I have a 1993 Tomos Sprint with 6500 miles on it. I am thinking about getting
a bi turbo for it. It goes around 30 mph now. Does anyone know how my bike
will be affected and what the price might be to get a bi turbo?

Thanx,
Ryan

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:51:07 EDT
From: ChrisM2002@aol.com
Subject: Re: MOPED QUESTION

it will gain anywhere from 5 to 10 mph and it will cost you anywhere from $89
to $150

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:48:02 -0400
From: "Tony Weinfurtner" Subject: Re: MOPED QUESTION

THE BI TURBO SELLS FOR $89.95, COULD VARY BY DEALER.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THE TRASMISSION CLUTCHES CHECKED, HAVE REPLACED THEM BEFORE
AROUND 6000 MILES. TONY
- ----- Original Message -----
From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 7:45 PM
Subject: MOPED QUESTION


> I have a 1993 Tomos Sprint with 6500 miles on it. I am thinking about
getting
> a bi turbo for it. It goes around 30 mph now. Does anyone know how my bike
> will be affected and what the price might be to get a bi turbo?
> > Thanx,
> Ryan
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 05:46:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: TOMKELLEY@webtv.net (THOMAS KELLEY)
Subject: Re: Carburator


I have a couple of HONDA ELITE 50 CC mopeds and that screw appears to be
a carb bowl drain That screw should be screwed in tight. Any
one,correct me if I am wrong.. TOM K



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