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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:28:30
Subject: california mopeds
From: morris schneider
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>From: Charles Fregeau
>Subject: Re: This is California, we have no laws!!!


>I can say amen to that. I've been collecting moped plates for 20 years and
have
>yet to see a California Moped plate. I know they exist.

>Charles R
>Scott Corsaro wrote:

> Moped laws in California, Hmmm. Their kind of funny. Every time you go to
> the DMV to register a moped they don't know what to do. Some will tell
you
> register it as a motorcycle, but once in a blue moon you will find
somebody
> that knows the right way. As for cops, they don't know jack when it comes
> to mopeds. I have seen scooter (over 50cc) registered as moped. Ya can't
> blame em, it only cost $12US for life to register a moped! A scooter will
> cost you about 20 to 70 dollars a year. As for a hot rod moped. It is
easy
> to get away with that hear. The cops are probably more happy that you are
> going faster, you not messing with the flow of traffic as much (California
> flow is 10 to 20mph over posted speed limit). The only bad side to
> California moped laws is that you need a full motorcycle license (easy to
> obtain) and insurance (Id say $100 year at most). When I first got in to
> mopeds I used to drive them around with no plate and no helmet, drove by
> many police and never had a problem. Back in the early 80's the laws were
> more laxed for mopeds and 50cc scooters.
> > Scott Corsaro
>
I've been having an ongoing discussion with California DMV in Sacramento and
they are really not sure what to do about mopeds. The law is confusing at
best. From what I understand, you're correct about the need for both a
license and insurance. I've heard lots of conflicting opinions from moped
owners, dealers etc. but that much seems clear.

I've also passed several police officers riding my Puch wearing a bicycle
helmet and they don't even notice me. I've recently bought a DOT helmet
which is required. At this point I think I'm legal, but wouldn't bet a lot
of money on it. There are moped plates - there's one on the back of my '79
Puch Magnum MK II.

Stay safe,

Morris

morrisk@cogent.net




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