So that night I began crusing the internet looking for mopeds. There
seamed to be plenty in other states especialy CA and back east, but nothing
at all in Arizona. So I began to inquire about shipping and found out just
how much it would cost to ship a 90 pound moped. Forget it.
A few weeks went by with nothing else, then I remembered something.
When I was about 12 a friend of the family had a son who collected old
bicycles and I recall two were mopeds. So I looked his name up in the book,
and left a message with him. The Sat he returned my call and told me he had
two mopeds that neeeded a little fixing up. So I told him I would be out
later that day to see them.
When I got there he led me to an enclosed car hauler where he had
them stored. There they were covered with dusty tarps. Two Solex mopeds
from the mid 60's. One was missing the light, and the other looked very
complete. I asked him how much for the two. He quoted me a price of $250
(which was about how much it cost to ship a moped from NewYork). So we shook
hands on the deal, and I picked them up a week later.
When I got them home, one had a flat tire, but the other's stayed
filled with air. So I pedeled and finaly got it to start. It wasnt very
powerful at all. Undaunted me and my boyfriend began to tear it apart. He
cleaned the gas lines, and fuel pump, and tightened all the bolts on the
engine which most were loose. Then he got on and started it, and it took off
with an amazing burst of speed.
The next day we went to WalMart and bought a digital bike spedometer
and hooked it up. It went an amazing 15.5 mph. Then I set to work on the
other moped. The fuel pump proved to not be working, and the gas tank was
too coroded to survive a "presureising" technique I tried to clean it out.
So I am awaiting parts for it.
Since that day I have been riding the black Solex around the
neighborhood. I get smiles and stares from people and a lot ask me where I
can get one. The best is when someone asks me if I want to sell it, and I
can pridefully say no. I was also able to "tune in" the carb and got it to
whizz along at an amazing 18 mph, and got it to speed up to 19.5 downhill.
All I have to say is that a Solex is a wonderful little machine. It
may not have a ton of power for hills, but it really is amazing what the
little 2/3 hp engine can do. I even found out that they are being reproduced
as they were when production ended in the late 70's and that parts are very
easy to come by. Not only that but the price is very reasonable. I know
that me and my boyfriend never parting with our little Solexes, and with luck
I will get the other running in a week. Wish me luck!
I was sitting in my SAT Prep class at my high school. Around 7:20 I was called
to the main office (the office for the community school) and was alerted that
someone had hit my bike in the parking lot. I was furious. I walked out side,
and immediately looked to where I parked it, only to find it lying on the
grass nearby. At first glance, the bike seemed like it was through a lot. Then
I took a closer look. My pedal and crank were bent, my blinker ripped off, my
stop light completely gone, scrapes and gashes in the plastic and metal parts
of the bike. It was pretty bad. After getting it home, I took a closer look.
The fork was in bad shape, the rear rim was bent up pretty badly, and the
lights no longer worked. But at least it started. I was upset...so let me tell
you the story of how I got my bike...
It was almost 2 years ago. I was in my uncle's shop in Hawthorne and he had
there what looked like to me a motorcycle. I asked him what it was, and he
told me a moped. I didn't understand at the time, but I had heard of them.
Then came the research. I talked to a friend who had one, and he told me the
requirements on how to ride them legally. Now, I was talking once to an old
family friend about my plans to search for a moped. It turns out, she had one
that was her brother's in their basement. I was so thrilled, it looked great.
Almost like a real motorcycle. I was thrilled, but i could tell it needed
work. So, after formalities and time, I bought it from her for $50. Almost
$500 later, it was running great. I had a great time with this bike, it was
incredible! Once I got my permit, there wasn't a minute I wasn't close to it.
I rode it anywhere my little heart desired. I loved that bike, and decided the
next best things was to learn how to work on it. So I had books shipped from
libraries all over the state, and read every single one available. Learned so
much I work on over 8 different ones now. Except for one week in the winter
and 4 weeks collectively on vacations, there has never been a day I have not
at least seen the bike.
It became an important part of my life for two reasons.. 1) I lived a good
mile from any downtown area and two 2) no one was ever around to drive me
anywhere. My father died when I was 11, and it was just my mother and I. I
lived far from anywhere close to get food, etc. My mom worked more days to
keep up the family. She worked (and still does) 6 nights a week from 3 PM -
11PM. And since noone I knew lived near me, I was stuck paying $2 every day to
get to school (NJ Transit). Then I got the moped! Very reliable and
dependable. The only time it ever gave me trouble was once when I crashed
going up a slight hill and slicing my front tire on a peice of glass. This is
a tough little bike, and I will never ever get rid of it (even if I have to
have each replacement part remolded to fit my bike exactly.) and they're right
about these types of things, you never truly appreciate what you have until
you lose it for a while (in terms of more material possessions)
WE did it. My son Dan and I rode our mopeds from our home in
Chillicothe to a friends in Oak Hill. WE traveled a distance of 57 miles.
Best part was going up Whiskey Hollow to Poplar Ridge and down into
Limerick. Took 4 hours. Can't wait to do it again. Even though we'd made
the trip hundreds of times before, this time we're forced to take strictly
back roads. And of course, when you're only going 25 mph you have time
to
notice things that you wouldn't otherwise.
I am now on the lookout for 2 more mopeds so my friend and his son can
join us. By the way, both mopeds ran like sewing machines! I had
greatly
feared a breakdown, (took cell phone), but had no problems what so ever.
The factory seemed shut down for vacation but the manager was there, and
thank heavens he spoke English. With his help I bought one at the factory
export price of $69 us. The only restriction was that I could not use it in
France. So he arranged to have it delivered to my ship. In those years
traveling by boat was cheaper than flying. I had come to France on the
steamship Arosa Sky for $300 roundtrip. When I got back to New York I
passed the bike thru customs and rode it home 10 miles to the Bronx. What a
marvelous experience.
My VeloSolex was a heavy duty bicycle with a 2 cycle 49cc engine sitting on
top of the front tire. On a level road the top speed was 20mph. The gas tank
held a pint and 3/4 of a mixture of gasoline and Castrol 2 cycle motor oil.
I also had a spare tank that held half a gallon. I averaged 300 miles per
gallon. My best trip was from New York to Virginia and back. I traveled 1520
miles in 20 days. I camped each night in the National and State Parks along
the way. After a few years the engine broke down. The nearest mechanic that
understood the VeloSolex was in Paris. I had the greatest times of my life
on my VeloSolex.
Yes, Im just like you who enjoys riding the moped around with the air in
my hair and dont have to worry about traffic and insurance because mopeds
down here are considred bicycles, so you dont need much to get one and run
one.
Had anyone else heard of or had experience with the Velectron?
Except for
the price, it looks exactly like what I was looking for!
You're 100% correct.
We run it up hills that used to be difficult for our old compact car.
I haven't found a *paved* hill yet that I can't climb with ease. Since
installing it in February it's performance has increased, directly
attributable to the 20 LBS of blubber that has been carved off my
carcass by riding more often and farther.
The roller bolts directly to the PTO, two sizes; 1.25" and 1.5". They're
produced in a variety of different materials. The composite roller
looks suspiciously like a grinding wheel for a Dremel Tool. I've run this
one in mud and on wet pavement without it slipping. Unfortunately it
eats cheap nylon bike tires for breakfast, lunch and dinner. For most
conditions the company recommends vulcanized tires and polyurethane
rollers, which will slip if wet but dry quickly and don't cause tire
wear. Aluminum rollers are also available. It takes just a few quick
turns with a wrench to change the roller out.
Rain and light mud, no problem. The last time I tried to run it in the snow
there was slipage. It's best to use the pedals and/or push in the white
stuff anyway.
More on Derbi Moped
Derbi mopeds were of near-motorcycle quality, much heavier-duty coonstruction
than the others that this shop (now defunct) sold (Tomos and Puch). They were
also the dominating marque in 50/80cc GP bike racing, at least until the
late 80's.
It seems to me they made tw
models, but mostly sold one. It was a
step-through, with a snowmobile-style torqu
converter (CVT), cast wheels,
wider tires than others, and a small fairing. The shop owner said that some
hop-up stuff was available, like 80cc kits, exp. chambers, etc., and that
simply pulling a stop out of the CVT would allow it to go above the legal
moped limit to around 40-42mph. They were $200-$300 more than the next most
expensive (Tomos) he had. The second model was described as a commercial
model, with a rear rack and fatter tires on smaller diameter rims, almost
like a scooter. My recall is a little sketchy, but these things were the
coolest.
They used to be all over Block Island, at least in 1990. One of the
shops/rental huts there would probably know much more than I do. Also, my
AltaVista search came up with an ad for one last week (but I can't find it
now) for sale in Kansas City, I think, for $200, which should be a bargain.
Kurt Freiburg
How does it feel ?
The following was written about motorcycles ("Zen & Art of Motorcycle
maintenance"), but I find, it totally applies to moped riding:
"You see things vacationing on a motorcycle in a way that is completely
different from any other. In a car you're always in a compartment, and
because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window
everything you see is just more TV. You're a passive observer and it is
all moving by you boringly in a frame."
"On a cycle the frame is gone. You're completely in contact with it
all. You're in the scene, not just watching it anymore, and the sense
of presence is overwhelming. That concrete whizzing by five inches
below your foot is the real thing, the same stuff you walk on, it's
right there, so blurred you can't focus on it, yet you can put your
foot down and touch it anytime, and the whole thing, the whole
experience, is never removed from immediate consciousness."
"Plans are deliberately
indefinite, more to travel than to arrive anywhere."
"With... lack of pressure to ``get somewhere'' it works out
fine and we just about have America all to ourselves."
"On Labor Day and Memorial Day weekends we travel for miles on these
roads without seeing another vehicle, then cross a federal highway and
look at cars strung bumper to bumper to the horizon. Scowling faces
inside. Kids crying in the back seat. I keep wishing there were some
way to tell them something but they scowl and appear to be in a hurry,
and there isn't -- ."
"Unless you're fond of hollering you don't make great conversations on
a running cycle. Instead you spend your time being aware of things and
meditating on them. On sights and sounds, on the mood of the weather
and things remembered, on the machine and the countryside you're in,
thinking about things at great leisure and length without being
hurried and without feeling you're losing time"
Derbi Mopeds
I am suprised to hear absolutely nothing about Derbi Mopeds and
Scooters.
They had a complete line of in my opinion the best mopeds and
scooters
out there. They go way back. I am the proud owner of a few of
theses
machines. Kind of hard to come by though. I am interested in
DS-50
scooter/moped model. It was designed as a moped, but it had
electric
start, it was the traditional 50-CC and it had a set of
cumbersome, but
functional pedals. I have also owned such relics as the Derbi
Laguna, A
top tank model made back in the 80's, quite fast and well built.
It too
had electric start and a tachometer. Then there was the RD-50
this one
resembled a dirt bike in design. It was also a top-tank model,
but did
not include electric start. There was also the Variant, this was
a step
thru model an
probably my favorite of the bunch, I still own
this one
and it is collecting dust in m
garage at the moment. It is
probably my
most prized posession. With very low mileage and in excellent
shape it
is easily worth a good dollar. I would like to know if you have
any
information of the where abouts of Derbi these days. As far as I
know
they are no longer exported to the US. Oh yeah as far as I know
they
also build motorcycles and are a component of the small
displacement
racing circuits of Europe.
Steven Eric Winkler
I did a little digging on Derbi and found few things:
1) It is still sold in Denmark, England
(http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~acsrajc/bikes/others.html#derbi) and Spain.
2) It is actually made in Spain - there is a page dedicated to spanish
bikes, that doesn't have any Derbi info yet, but might in the future
(http://www.primenet.com/~bobwest/moto.html).
3) I ran across a post from another Derbi moped owner, his email is
sbauer@tpoint.net
Andy
Additional info on Whizzer
Note: this info may be outdated
I researched the Whizzer engine on your page, and actually went
to "the
Whizzer store". Thought you might find the following interesting:
The Whizzer kit is now $1595, and you have to supply the bicycle.
The
recommend a "cruizer" bike and specifically the one being sold by
Schwinn now. So you can figure $2000-2500 for a modern Whizzer
The engine is apparently is an updated version of the original
Whizzer
engine based off a Kohler K91 engine, which has been manufactured
since
1923, and is used in applications such as generators. A 1993
upgrade of
the engine eliminated the original iron barrel, so now the base
and
barrel are now a single unit, with a steel piston sleeve.
Nostalgia Co.
offers several power boosting options such as head (+$160), cam
(+$100),
and "genuine Whizzer" headlight/tailight for +$230.
There is a $10 service fee added to all Whizzer kits for
notarized
certificate of origin for local dept of motor vehicle
registration.
The engine is 4 cycle, air cooled, 8.86 cubic inches, 4
horsepower at
3700 RPM, weighs 21 lbs, Mikuni 18mm carb, and they suggest a
strong
frame "considering speeds of 35 m.p.h.".
Fred Lenk
Homepage: http://www.anacapa.net/~lenkf/
Sax Motor Kit
I owned a Sax system in Canada, and now that I
am
living in Australia, I researched them here. There is a dealer,
and he
told me yesterday that Sax in Germany have ceased production of
the kits
as of December 1996, and gone into Yamaha motorbike assembly or
the
like. As far as he knew no-one else was making them available
any more.
Too bad, it was a great system, and reasonably priced condidering
you
got a wheel, drum brake and good quality.
The North American distributors, Sax Energy Corp i
Vancouver BC,
are
developing their own kit, using locally designed and manufactured
components, and release is imminent.
Phil Wright
This article is about cars,
but it helps to understand what happens when you try to start warm moped with
choke engaged (choke lever down for Tomos) and how to recover from this.
More Whizzer
I remember a cousin who rode around in a motorized bicycle and after reading
your page it came back to mind it was a "Whizzer". There was lack of
transportation in Negros island in the Philippines then an
this guy would
ride 80 kms. north of Dumaguete, in mostly unpaved roads, in hi
Whizzer to
visit his father`s coconut farm. I envied him. All I had was a B.F. Goodrich
bicycle with ordinary pedals.
ZAP opinions
I bought one of their units. It is well made and not a toy
but it wasn't suitable for my needs. I biked 14km with it and
the battery ran out of charge. It increased my speed from my
normal 24km/hr to 30km/hr. If you only commute a short
distance it might be worth it.
I was interested in an electric power assist for my bike, and after
several months of looking at different models I tried the ZAP system and
it is FUN (strenuously capitalized). I'm sure it would be perfect for
your bike, even though mine isn't a recumbent. It is also the cheapest
one I found that was electric and not gas-powered.
Chronos Power Assist
The Chronos electric power assist was invented by a man in San Diego
Ca. It runs on a nicad cell pack which attaches to the bike the same way
a water bottle does. The motor to the seat tube and rests on the rear
wheel when it is activated. It doesn't take over the pedaling. Instead it
give an assist of to human power so it essentially cut your effort by
2/3. The entire apparatus weighs around six pounds. The only drawback is
the price. About $600 with shipping. I found installation pretty simple.
However a bike shop could do it if necessary. The people who manufacture
it are very helpful. The can be reached at 1-800-989-4766. I can tell
you that it changes the way I look at biking. The one we have is being
used by my my wife. I am going to order one for myself because I want ot
be able to do some riding in New England where the roads can be hilly.
the expression on my wifes face when she first used it was sheer joy. She
now suggests we ride instead of complaining. We are both in our early
fifties. I don't have the stamina I used to have.
Call the company, They'll be happy to talk to you. And tell them you saw
it on the internet. I told them I would sing it's praises for them.
From "The Moped Revolution" by Tony Hiss and Jeff Lewis (from
New York Times, 1977)
(in italic are my own comments)
...Any country that is
ready to give up policing the world is ready for the moped. This
is because moped can have no appeal to the self-important...
...In the 40's and 50's the "motorbike" enjoyed a limited
popularity in the United States, but it was literally a bicycle
to which motor was attached. Unlike the moped, its frame was not
designed with a motor in mind, so it was badly balanced and its
motor tended to overheat, and it faded, unmourned, from the
American motorized scene.
...The moped ... can for that matter, be used simply as bicycle,
and occasionally a mopedaler does give a whirl to the pedals for a
power boost on steep or simply to avoid guilt.
I feel that way sometimes!
... The moped is now so well established as an American
institution that it has its own national magazine, MoPed.
Anyone seen it ? Know how to get copies ?
I'd be very interested!
...Leo Carney, editor of MoPed, sees further moped inroads ahead.
He recently published an article "Planning for Tomorrow: Future
Uses for Today's Transportation", which looks forward to a
not-distant future in which mopedalers will be using railroad
right-of-way and scenic land adjoining sewage easements as an
intercity road network (At present, mopeds, like bicycles are
banned fro
minimum-speed freeways and most bridges).
Today, the law here, in Missouri is better -
I can use freeways, as long as they are not
interstate. Still, it amazes me, a bright future was predicted
to a moped in 1977 and then... nothing.
Whatever happened to... K&S Industries
Just read your query about K&S and their "Bike Machine".
I've owned 3 bike machines in the past. I still have one (sold the
other 2). I purchased all of them from the "Comb" catalog, which has
since stopped operations. They were selling the K&S bike machines in
the early '80s. I bought them for about $80 each as they were
refurbished and not brand new. I imagine that Kidde couldn't sell them
through their normal distributors and then sold a batch of them to
"Comb" at a discount. If I remember right the original retail price was
around $400 for the system. Tomorrow I'll look for the manual in the
garage, which will have Kidde's address or phone number. I'm pretty
sure they haven't built any in at least 12 years!
Last Rights
I finally did it. I've been procrastinating for years, literally.
Always tomorrow, another day always brought another plan for that
dynamic ignition timing, that miscellaneous hop-up idea.
And no time. Never any damn time. And so it sat, awaiting an
uncertain future.
My first bike was not a motorcycle. Friends always chided me.
"Get a real bike," they'd say. Carless in Boston by my own
self-proclaimed religious decree, I wanted my own wheels, something
more than the myriad of bicycles I've ridden. I looked a bit here, a
bit there, giving lots of "that's nice" glances to hopeful
salespeople. And then it happened: I walked into a busy shop and saw
a moped that made me look again, and again. A moped? This is
rec.moto, ain't it? Yeah, well, it looked like a motorcycle well
enough to be pulled over by Boston police for lack of a plate.
Pointing to the pedals, the officer still didn't look convinced; not
until I rotated the pedal armature around did he concede I wasn't
bluffing. That it would hit a clocked 44 MPH box-stock didn't help,
either.
No, my Peugeot TSM-U3 didn't look like a "moped." It had a long,
slender seat at comfortable as anything on a modern sport bike. The
gas tank was in-line with the the seat, white, with orange pinstriping,
chrome trim and spoke wheels. I rode my TSM-U3 on black tarmac and
black ice, white sand and white snow. We became one, inseparable,
when a cage driver oblivious to road conditions couldn't stop and bent
parts of my TSM around me; nerve damage from my cracked spine stays
with me today. I rode my TSM-U3 nearly five thousand miles between
1982 and that fateful day in 1985 when I bought my first, as you'd
like to say, "real" bike.
From 1985 onwards, my TSM became a perpetual project, adding a battery
and charging system, directional signals, brilliant brake lights, a
horn louder than anything on either of my current bikes. Used less
and less frequently, sometimes only when my CB750F was in the shop, it
sat outside, strangely uncovered, awaiting an uncertain future.
I registered my TSM-U3 for what would be the last time in January,
1987. Feeling guilty for not riding it more, I almost deliberately
avoided it
altogether. Forcing love above guilt, I set out to start
it in mid 1987 after
many months of sitting idle. Kick-starting it was
fruitless. I pushed it around and around the parking lot until I was
exhausted, when it finally kicked over. I rode it a bit, then parked
it again. In the intervening years, it has been bumped into and
pushed by the wind, crashing onto its side, picked up by me to sit in
the baking sun and pounding rain, until the next time.
Being perpetually unable to find parking spaces near my apartment, I
left my bikes in the area behind the house my mother rented - a ten
minute walk away. She just moved, for the first time in fourteen
years; the parking spaces gone, I had to clean up. Until I find, or
give in to the $100/month/bike fees I've been offered (ouch), I moved
my two "real" bikes to my parents' houses, each about thirty miles
away. The oil cans, locks, chain lube, bike wash, covers, tools, and
all the rest moved or chucked, the only thing left was, my TSM-U3.
I called the Department of Public Works, Sanitation Office, and
asked for the person responsible for scheduling large item removal.
She asked me what it was. I stumbled. But I said it was my moped.
She said they'll come next Wednesday, July 12, 1995 - today.
I didn't know what else to do. Rusted, with a permanently mangled
rear fender from the back-breaking accident we survived together, the
battery now gone, engine probably rusted internally beyond repair, I
doubt I could give it away, much less find a good home for it.
(Feeling much the way the fender looked, I ponder whether you could
give me away, too.)
Last night, or is it this morning, at about 2:00 am, I walked, with no
small amount of trepidation, to the now nearly deserted area behind
the house. With an old, worn tire pump in hand, the same one I pumped
the TSM's tires with years ago, I inflated the long-since deflated
tires for the last time. I don't know why. I was tossing the tire
pump because it was rusted, working poorly at best; but it would still
work one more time. I scrawled "large trash removal" on a piece of
paper and affixed it to my TSM-U3.
Walking it slowly out to the front of the house, my TSM-U3 rolled
effortlessly. The chain, unoiled for eight years, moved freely and
smoothly over the sprocket teeth. The handlebar felt smooth and
steady, the TSM turning on a radius that makes my "real bikes" look
like school buses. I could hear gas sloshing in the tank, still there
after all this time. Though unlocked, I found its key on an old
key-ring, shiny as if new, removed it from the ring, inserted it in the
fork lock anyway, which still turns. Putting it up on its stand, on
the sidewalk, where the trash goes, I stepped back to admire it. And
I stepped up to admire it. I felt it under my hands. It felt
familiar, safe, comfortable, inviting. It felt like and old friend
wanting desperately to talk with me.
Instinctively, not habitually, I reached down and turned the fuel
valve on; it turned easily. Not being able to remember how to start
it cerebrally, I put my hands on the bars, my fingers on the choke and
decompression, my foot on the pedal, going through the motions under
control of a less logical part of my brain, for reasons I know not.
I knew the motor wouldn't turn. Logic dictated that. After eight
years, I hate to think what it looked like internally. The air filter
was probably a mouse-nest. The carburetor's jets were probably caked
with oxidation. The belt was probably cracked and would snap if I
spun the pedal. But I spun the pedal anyway.
The crankshaft turned, I heard it. But more than that. The engine
kicked! I gave the pedal another spin. The engine started; the
headlight shone brightly; the speedometer became illuminated softly
all the way around by small lights I thought would never work again;
the muffler spurted gentle puffs of exhaust; the TSM-U3, nay, *my*
TSM-U3, was alive, as if to beckon me to give it another chance!
Made nervous
by the police car which had just pulled up on the
opposite side of the street, I
killed the engine, shut off the fuel
valve, and started to walk away. I came back, thinking frantically, my
brain more shorted out than what I had assumed of the TSM's electrical
system would be. Awash with a storm of feelings, feeling everything
and nothing at the same time, nearly in shock, I walked away again,
not looking back, unable to look back, afraid to look back.
I pictured in my mind a child whose father had left with neither
warning nor cause, walking in the door years later, a well-practiced
smile on his face, "heeeeerrrre's daddy!" booms from the lips, and I
want to run, run like hell. Maybe he, the child in the image, wants
to run; but *I* want to run, to run like hell, away from my TSM-U3.
Hell yes, mister well-adjusted piece 'o sh*t, you're right; it's just
a bunch of rusting metal parts, oxygenated hydrocarbons, inanimate,
mechanical. I don't suppose it has a soul, now does it? And if it
did, do you suppose that soul, or a piece of that soul, would live in
me anywhere, now do you? Of course not; you don't have time, mister
well-adjusted piece 'o sh*t, to bother with such illogical and useless
shows of such rank sentimentality. According to such practical logic,
I surely just walked away, whistling dixie, one more piece of
unresolved trash taken care of, never to be thought of again. Hah.
I wonder where my TSM-U3 is at this minute. Did the trash man take it
yet? Is it thrown, unceremoniously, on some heap somewhere?
I wonder, when I discarded it, what part of me went with it; I know
some part of me went with it, because by most peoples' observations,
my brain "ain't all there." This is hard. Really, really hard.
I have to type this slowly; when I type quickly, my face distorts, my
eyes can't see. I feel as if I should run, run back to my TSM-U3, run
back to make it *mine* again, and then do what?
EV Warrior notes (from Usenet)
Spidra Webster wrote:
I just saw one of those EV Warriors on the local streets yesterday. I saw
a guy on a brightly colored yellow bike. At first it just looked like he
had a tailbox, but I noticed he was going somewhere without pedalling. I
wanted to get a word with him but it wasn't possible.
I don't understand why someone would get a EV Warrior instead of a moped
anyway. It's nice looking, but if you don't bother pedalling it (this was
a very, very low grade, so gradual you don't even notice it unless you're
on a bike) then you might as well get a scooter or a motorcycle.
I actually got to test ride one of these about a year ago. A rather deluxe
model with a Sachs hydralic disc brake. Some comments:
1. It's really too heavy to be used as a pedaling bicycle for any amount
of time .... but it does have some gearing (7 speed on the pedals) so you
could assist the motor and/or get home if you ran out of charge.
2. Given that it's not a great bicycle ... it's a nice moped. The frame is
decently well made, the bike handles well, and it's not junky like some of
the prior attempts at small electric bikes. Uses dual Bosch radiator fan
motors and a decent controller. Gel Cells for charge I believe. It was
fast (20mph+) and accelerated nicely when I was in the "defensive line"
class of rider. The braking was impressive.
3. Compared to a conventional mo-ped/scooter ... it's quiet and quite
possibly easier to maintain. I know I'm going to hear about horrible
electrics are ... but I'd rather motor-pace behind a EV-Warrior than any
small gas engined vehicle. In CA. our electricity is rather cleanly
generated. Even with transmisson losses the pollution output in electrical
production is about 1/100 the equilivant pollution when comparing new
internal combustion automobiles with electrics (I think the US East Coast's
ratio is more like 1/10, as per. Consume
Reports). The 2 cycle stuff in
small 1hp engines produces more (much much more
pollution than a 200HP
1996 automobile. So if you want to have a small motor bike ... this isn't
a bad one.
4. However I am tired of seeing 30% or more of the electrical energy on
these electric-assist bikes wasted on a friction system. On the EV-Warrior
they use a rather massive Chin-Shen rear tire for durability, that also
hurts efficency. Even the geared hub motors are preferable to this sort of
setup. The company says they have some alternatives in the works.
5. The marketing and advertizing behind the EV-Warrior is excellent. They
mainly sell thru automobile dealers ... so they don't have to contend with
the very conservative bike shop owners (I've seen shops go out of business
rather than try anything new). Consider studying the EV-Warrior business
as part of Selling-101.
Fixing Motobecane
I've been taking notes. Sorry about the length, but hey, I WARNED YOU.
Team: "No Fear" Motobecane Update:
Mon Jun 5, 1995
I have been cleaning parts. Got both mains out of the cases,
gently coaxed out the crud, and have both sounding and feeling
pretty darn good. Brushed the rust off of the crank, and have big
end bearing just fuckin' perfect (so to speak).
Got rings off intact, have cleaned them and the piston
grooves, and the whole assembly is race-ready.
Called the only moped shop in the yellow pages, and was
informed that Motobecan
stopped making the things ten years ago.
I have sent out high-tec internet typ
feelers for whatever
information can be had.
Trashed the (already trashed) remains of the crankcase oil
seals during the bearing removal process. Need to find a "seals-
are-us" sort of place in Columbus. One of them is intact enough
to be measured...
Wed Jun 7, 1995
Found all the parts I needed at a place called "Handy Bikes"
on 5th ave. They even have an old guy who they have to call from
the back to help with old parts. He was really nice, and quite
helpful. Anyway, last night I started re-assembly, and got as far
as putting the case back together and re-installing the piston.
The cylinder would not just "pop" back on, so I stopped there. So
far I have a total investment of $31.50, including the purchase
price!
Kyle is pretty excited about the thing (he saw it for the
first time yesterday).
Sat Jun 10, 1995
We have spark! I just need a couple more small items, and
the thing ought to run. I have the engine back in.
Sun Jun 11, 1995
Yep, got it running yesterday. However, it wants to be
choked all the time, and won't idle. I think that the carb is all
screwed up. There were two phillips head countersink-type screws
in the body that I did not touch. I think it's time to look at
those (and find the correct parts to replace them). I'll bet that
one is supposed to be a idle mixture screw. (There are no mixture
screws at all available to me now)
But it didn't fly apart or anything, and at full throttle it
runs nice and smooth. Both Kyle and I actually managed to ride it
up and down the street.
Had a hell of a time getting the nut on the clutch side of
the crankshaft. There is a snap ring that holds the free-wheeling
portion of the clutch in place on the crank. Mark and I did not
know about this, and used way too much force to drive the clutch
off. Found out yesterday that we mangled the snap ring and
mushroomed the end of the crank in the process. I fixed the snap
ring easy enough, but Kyle and I had to use valve grinding
compound and tons of elbow grease to get the nut to go on all the
way. We probably spent an hour running it on and off, while the
grinding compound eased the distortion of the threads. It worked
though.
Sure is a cute little thing!
Mon Jun 12, 1995
The engine is running, but not without constant working of
both the throttle and the choke. I have to fully choke it to get
it running. Once running, it will not idle at all unless the
choke is just so, at about half way. If the choke is just right,
it is possible to hold the throttle open a bit and get the thing
to idle. It will not idle at the fastest stop-screw setting
(that's too slow).
Once I'm on the road and moving, it seems to cruise along OK
at about 20 to 25 MPH, however this is with the choke held just
so again. If I let go of the choke lever, it dies.
I have the ignition timing set so that the points open when
the piston is about 1/8" before top dead center. I have also
tried it with opening at about 1/2" before TDC. It seems to run
smoother at the more retarded setting.
Just tonight, I thought that I had found the problem in the
bottom-most brass plug below the carburetor main jet. This is a
threaded piece about an inch long, with an 8mm hex head (with a
screwdriver slot cut in it). It has a hole drilled in it cross-
wise, then another hole running the length of it (plugged on the
hex end). There is a short threaded portion on the other end. The
length-wise hole was plugged up, apparently soldered shut. It
looked like this was supposed to be open, so I drilled it out. It
looks as though this is the port through which the main jet is
supplied. At any rate, there is no difference at all in the way
the thing runs.
Sat Jun 17, 1995
Boy was I wrong about that "brass plug". That is indeed the
main jet. The thing that looks like a jet in the venturi is just
sort of a conduit from the jet. I took the carb apart on
last
time to see if I could find anything wrong. This time I removed
that littl
conduit-thingie, and there was quite a bit of crud in
there. Then I took the whole thing (disassembled) down to Handy
Bikes to compare my pile of parts with the book. I was not
missing anything. I told the "old guy" about drilling out the
"plug" and he rolled his eyes and went and got a new one for me.
I put it all back together and started it, but it didn't
really run much better; still wanted to be choked. Well, "what
the hell" I thought. I re-adjusted the choke cable. There is an
adjustment barrel on the top of the cable, and I have it set so
that the thing is pulled up just so. I managed to ride around the
block several times. With a little practice, I have gotten so
that I can even stop rolling and start off again without killing
the engine. Maybe this is how it's supposed to be (?).
The centrifugal clutch takes some getting used to. I have a
tendency not to want to rev the engine as I am stopping, because
that would wear the clutch. But I suppose that's just what you
have to do.
When I got back from riding around, I also adjusted the
throttle cable barrel so that it will idle. I have not ridden it
like this yet, since I was hot and tired and wanted to stop and
have a beer. I'll go out and give it a shot after 'while.
Sun Jun 18, 1995
Instead of just leaving it alone, I worked on it some more
after that. I removed the intake manifold and made a proper
gasket for it, and put it back on. It had had an aluminum gasket,
which I suspected of leaking. It ran a little better after that,
I think. The choke seemed to want to be set just a little bit
further out, but the adjuster was at the end of it's reach. So I
ran the adjuster all the way in and moved the cable in the clamp.
Unfortunately, I did not measure the location of the choke
plunger before starting, so now I am back to square one on
adjusting it. (I couldn't get it started after that, although I
did not try very hard).
Mon Jun 19, 1995
Almost time to go to work. I'll be darned if I didn't spend
several hours working on the fuckin' moped yesterday. I did fix
the float, and made the carburetor perfect. Then there was no
spark!!! I finally traced that to a bad resistor in the spark
plug cap. I replaced it with a solid connector, and get a good
spark now. I got to reading the can that the oil came in, and it
said "for 21 HP and larger water-cooled engines only". Hmmm - I
went and got some new gas, and some Lawnboy oil. In replacing the
gas in the tank, a lot of rust broke free. I flushed it several
times, but I think something must have gotten in and plugged the
carb up. Now you can pedal all you want, but nothing happens, and
the spark plug does not smell of gas when it is removed.
Argggggg!!
Tue Jun 20, 1995
It's hotter than hell. I turned on the AC in the garage
right when I got home, and am going to go out and fuck with the
motobecane one more time in a while here. I got a big-ass fuel
filter that I want to install. That and another through cleaning
of the carb, and if that doesn't work, I'm stumped.
***
SUCCESS! The Motobecane is up and running! I've just been
maybe two miles on it, up and down alleys nearby. Here's what the
final problem was:
Rust in the gas tank, basically. The main inlet pipe to the
carb was plugged with shit. I ran a small drill bit in and out of
it (by hand), and gave the whole carb a final blowing out. Then I
installed the above-mentioned fuel filter, and fired it up. I
still had to carefully adjust the choke cable barrel to get it
just so, but I seem to have gotten it, and it runs well and idles
and everything. I was able to ride it long enough to start to
feel silly for riding around on a 50 cc moped! (At 5'-10", just
under 200 lbs., some grey hair, well... I look silly. But who
cares? It's running!
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COSTS
6/4/95 - $20.0
Initial purchase
6/7/95 - $11.50 Gaskets, seals, motor mounts
6/9/95
$25.00 Rings, ignition wire, misc. cycle parts
6/10/95 - $ 2.00 Crank nuts
6/17/95 - $ 5.24 New main jet
6/19/95 - $ 5.00 Big-ass fuel filter
total $68.74.00
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